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I was reading an article by stevendedalus a little earlier and a passing phrase therein reminded me of a recurring wondering I have: what do men really look for in a woman physically? Is it the languid, limpid-eyed lasses of classical art, the buxom betties depicted in old pirate and western movies, those r&b babes with big bums or indeed the ultra-slender it girls that dominate TV screens, billboards and magazine pages in most of the developed (pardon the pun) world?

This pondersome question of mine was also raised the other day when I was watching Video Hits or similar and had the misfortune of stumbling across Millsy's new music video (for those not in the know, Millsy was a runner-up in Australian Idol and was the darling of most Aussie girls between the ages of 11 and 16 for his boyish good looks and larrikin personality). The song is called Miss Vanity and the music video features a whole lot of beauty queens strutting around in swimsuits. Well when I was watching it seemed to me that all those girls seemed so THIN! Not in a, 'Wow, I wish I looked like that' way, but in a 'Is that really considered attractive?' way.

So come on guys, don't be shy, spill the beans? Solve magazine publishers' and Hollywood's marketing questions once and for all. What's hot and what's a turn off?

Curvaceously yours... or not?

Teegst*r

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on Jun 18, 2004
3 words...Catherine Zeta Jones


Yes! She is extremely sexy, I even thought so when she had a bun in the oven. It's all about the overall aura that a woman throws off. The accent might have something to do with it too.

-- B
on Jun 18, 2004
Cher (back in the 70's) was SO HOT! I also loved Princess Lea in the second Star Wars when she was chained to Jabba the Hut in her slave outfit.
on Jun 18, 2004
heres a true model anecdote:

i dropped by a shoot to discuss something with one of the photographers only everyone was taking a break and the person i needed to see had stepped out for a few. so im looking over the polaroids and i hear the following conversation...

model 1: (discussing the thai food that had been ordered in) this is really good. i just LOVE thai food
model 2: yeah me too. (long moment) where does it come from?
model 1: hmm im not sure. (brightening) oh i know..japan!
on Jun 18, 2004

model 1: (discussing the thai food that had been ordered in) this is really good. i just LOVE thai food
model 2: yeah me too. (long moment) where does it come from?
model 1: hmm im not sure. (brightening) oh i know..japan!


See, it's not healthy to starve yourself.  You kill off brain cells.


Were these two blonde, by chance?

on Jun 18, 2004
When the lights are out, they really don't care;)
on Jun 18, 2004
in this case, yes. but modeldom trumps hair color. several weeks later, a brunette was led into my office and urged to ask me the same question shed just posed to the person who brought her to me. so she smiled sweetly and asked, 'have you ever heard of a guy named bob dylan? is he famous or something?" after meeting him in a bar and spending most of the night hanging out with him, she wasnt quite sure if it was worth bragging about.
on Jun 18, 2004
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When the lights are out, they really don't care;)


Thats a low blow.

I dont know i dont have a specific type when it comes to women, if i have to guess it would be 2 things, the first one would be "looks" (as i said i dont have anything specific to add to "looks") the next one would be personality they would have to be great listeners, funny, charming, open-minded, intelligent, witty and most importantly caring.
on Jun 19, 2004

Yeah, most of the runway models look like they are in pain most of the time . Why do they look so mad all the time?


They're probably hungering for a Big Mac that they know they'll never have.

on Jun 20, 2004
wow.... i've been out all weekend but it seems you guys have been busy! check out all your responses!

i totally agree with what most of you said about 1. self confidence being attractive and 2. how it depends on your 'type' and 3. personality is way more important. well, all three of those are certainly true for me when it comes to how i look at guys. my reason for writing this post though was that i was just puzzled that magazines and the fashion industry seem to push "skinny" on us, when it seems so many people find curvy (or at least non-bony) attractive.

it's just weird!

not saying skinny can't be pretty, and some people are naturally thin (and berated for it!). takes all kinds, as they say. i just hope the young generation of girls who are so influenced by what they see in the media are able to see themselves as attractive as they are, and don't try to fit themselves into a mold that for some is unattainable, and for most is not the pinnacle of attractiveness that they percieve it to be.
on Jun 21, 2004
Skinny, bony, fat, pleasingly..., all are in the beholder, yet I perceive them as trim in their own right.
on Jun 21, 2004
I think it is more a matter of health. Some people are naturally thin, and others are naturally plump, and both can radiate a natural healthiness. People who are purposely making themselves thin look sick. I see stars all the time in their mid-20s and 30s that could be someone's grandmother from the neck down. There is a difference between healthy leanness and a wasted skinniness. Same for people who are plump. Sedintary gluttony shows, and looks nothing like someone who is healthy and on the lean end of overweight.

Your appearance is an extention of your lifestyle I think. Your weight doesn't make you pretty, it is just a by-product of your lifestyle. I have seen really healthy, self-assured women who some would consider fat and they were far more attractive than the skinny, vain women with stripper hair and too much makeup. Just my opinion. Healthy is beautiful, and skinny isn't always healthy.
on Jun 21, 2004
I like the slender librarian/nerd look.
on Jun 22, 2004
Give me a healthy (i.e: not twiggy and all skeleton like... perhaps with a few extra pounds, to give me something to hold onto) nerdy girl with glasses and I'm won over!
on Jun 27, 2004
As far as I can tell, there are a few consistencies between our likes and dislikes, but... Everyone is different (No two people are not on fire). For me it's usually different little things like mannerisms and a well-cut pair of flared jeans or a crazy sense of humor. Here's a few other things that light (and extinguish) my fire...

Whats Hot: A nice smile, the eyes (it's all in the eyes), modesty, the token librarian and nerd girls in movies (Rachael Leigh Cook - Anti-trust), intelligence, interesting personality, caring, good proportions, healthy hair (long or short), not afraid to eat a decent meal, or chocolate, or ice-cream, French/Africaans accent, free thinker...

Jessica Alba, Lee lee Sobieski, Allyson Hannigan, Keira Knightly.

Whats Not: Skanky clothes (belts being used as skirts and bikini tops being used as a top and not underwear), stilts masquerading as shoes (esp. the clear plastic ones), drug and bad diet affected skin, stoner eyes, "Im hot and don't I know it", surgical 'enhancments', enough piercings to resemble a tackle box, noticeably low self-esteem, sheep mentality...

Britney, Christina, Missy Elliot, Courtney Love, Calista 'emaciated' Flockhart.

What Doesn't Matter: Height, shoe size, the car they drive, what they did ## years ago, who and what their family are, how much money they earn (social status).

IMHO, magazine publishers, advertisers, fashion label marketing and Hollywood have it wrong most of the time. I guess they want to stand out from the crowd by being shocking, different and to be able to say "My models are thinner than yours!" but give me a 50's pinup girl anyday!
on Jun 27, 2004
Details, details... always with the details. But then again, you said not to be shy....
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